財務數據實證
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寄給朋友
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弟子捐款
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總捐款
2003至2006
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總捐款
至2007
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總捐款
至2008
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其他
捐款
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耿蘊何，張西琴
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$598,550
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$603,550
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$608,550
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a. $265,000
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凌波，路文媛
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$546,010
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$554,030
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$554,030
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b. $181,180
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王圻，魏海寧
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$459,901
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$578,909
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$780,909
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李延明，邢穎
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$440,016
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$447,035
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$451,145
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王志坤，呂秀芬
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$144,433
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$269,178
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$305,178
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總支出
至2007
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總支出
至2008
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總支出
至2009
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呂雅菁
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$5,500
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$38,500
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$48,364
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Do some math! Don't be lazy!
Donation Money (including unrestricted and temp-restricted): $233,520
Donated Goods: $30,586
Total: $264,106
This is same to the donations spreadsheet ($264,105.49)
I have donated some goods to ZiJiu Institute before. They sent me the receipt with equivalent amount of money.
So their integrity is intact. Stop misleading people!
義工們忍辱負重，一直沒有說明為何李延明不願意公佈學院的財務數據。義工們被罵了這麼久，終於真相大白。
原來他們義工們願意公佈而李延明反對，理由是因為：
1, 救教的存在。救教是黃河院區的地主，是個宗教團體。李延明是教主。
2, 呂雅菁是有史以來唯一領薪水的義工。因為李延明命令學院為呂雅菁申請在美國的居留權。
李延明命令學院為呂雅菁申請在美國的居留權
真的假的？！
老早就聽說她在Sandra的公司上班啊！應該是那個公司幫她辦身份啊！怎麼會是學院？
學院在2008年給她＄33,000薪水。這看來是全職薪水（別告訴我這是半薪，這樣會嚇死一堆人！）。他有在學院上班嗎？工作職稱是什麼？
他如果在學院全職上班，怎麼還能在Sandra那兒上班？也領錢嗎？
誰能把來龍去脈說明一下？真是玄之又玄............
看了這麼多的文章，我只有一個小小的問題：
請問今年還有「感恩日」嗎？
前兩年沒參加，我本來計畫今年要來耶！
今年改国际防骗日了，你来吗？
佛教有佛誕節. 基督教有聖誕節. 「感恩日」是老李的生日. 大拜拜日. 是不是該叫: 魔 誕節呢??
「為什麼現在沒有人查問石頭山新院區是一個李延明先生與邢穎女士共有私人的公司(Yellow River 1750,LLC)的資產？為什麼沒有人問：將來「新院址除現有的建築外，尚有八英畝土地未開發，日後如能籌募足夠的資金，即可增建教室、校舍、餐廳等附屬設施， …，希望能有更多善心人士支持和參與，共同加入自救救人的義舉。」 最終用募款建設在私人公司資產上的設施會是屬誰所有？如以做法的角度來看，到底是誰還在隱瞞誰？」
自救教育學院 2008七月至2009三月在石頭山新院區院址的$ 91,963.58支出裏，募款修建在私人公司資產上的設施會是屬誰所有？！
李延明真是會雲山霧罩，放長線釣大魚ㄟ。等著善心人士捐款去建設八英畝的私有財產。真是利益（立意）善良的團體！
去過「生命學院」的都知道，那裡根本就是一個工業園區。周邊都是倉庫廠房。
請問如何能夠增建教室、校舍、餐廳等附屬設施？？
若要變更地目，可能嗎？
若不變更地目，合法嗎？
李先生對呂小姐真是寵愛萬千，不但可以拿學院的薪水，還讓眾師兄姐每月定期給呂小姐零用錢，說是要考驗他們的得失心，怪不得她台灣的家也不要回了，在美國多好，有人罩著。
你說得太客氣了（那裡只是罩著而已），根本就是XXXXX，這就是XX的代價。
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我没见过吕小姐，她漂亮吗？
从照片上看长相一般，但她能把教主搞的神魂颠倒，众叛亲离，看来她是老祖派来测试教主的。但教主过不了色关。废了修行。
感谢吕母，舍身伺虎，魔头现形，众生得救，离苦得乐，地藏之心，我不入地狱，谁入地狱。只苦了你一人，身陷淫魔与妒魔之间，何日得脱。吕母万岁万岁万万岁。
按一般狀況，男未婚，女未嫁，也沒什麼，但現在的重點是，李延明自稱是修行人，是生而知之有使命的師父，他這種作法，是什麼意思？是包藏禍心？有計畫的矇騙世人？苗條淑女君子好求，更何況他還有一位跟了他十年的同居人，於情於理都不合理。但就這一點，以李延明現有的位置、身分條件來看，他沒有條件談這些不按常軌的愛欲。但又口口聲聲說要行善，他有法，大家要跟著他走才能走的出來？到底他的出發點是什麼？是否值得我們深思？
有一种病人，天生人格分裂，妄想狂，一般没受过教育，胆子大，有附体现象，嘴里说别人的话，能言善变，贪财好色，好大喜功，有救世欲望，死不悔改，大多邪教教主，农民起义领袖，多是这种人格。但他们的结局大多是众叛亲离，身手异处。因为魔鬼装神仙迟早会暴露的。
情人眼裡出西施.各人有各人的菜. 李先生曾經是許多女義工的菜耶!!!
現在終於真相大白，誰出的錢是最多的。我們都明白了！是誰在說謊！
As I read this, I see that Edward Keng, Paul Ling and Lucy have posted nearly all the articles. Why do you ask and answer your own questions? Is that why you keep the site Anonymous?
Edward Keng, if you have integrity, you should post under your own name, and ask that anyone that responds to you, include their own name.
If you changed to a registered site, then the Truth would truly stand out.
The ZiJiu Institute needs to stop hiding if it is honest.
Since you requested people to use their own name to ask and answer questions, why did you also hide yourself ( not use your real name ) to post your response if you are honest ????? It's obviously that you were afraid that everyone knew you are Lu X Jing for posting the article.
中文翻譯 : 既然妳要求別人要使用真名去問或回答問題, 如果妳自己是誠實的, 又為什麼要隱藏自己的真實姓名來貼文要求別人呢 ? 很顯然的妳怕人家知道妳是呂X菁在發貼文吧 .
I can tell you who I am not.
I am not Lu, or Lee. I am simply a concerned citizen. You can call me Mr. Anonymous. Apparently I have donated many thousands to the ZiJiu Institute over the years.
So, I think it is my right to ask.
Where can I go to practice ZiJiu, or to learn, and be taught?
As I understand, the Yellow River site cannot teach due to the results of the past lawsuits (residential). Is the ZiJiu Institute no longer associated with self-healing?
Your IRS application says that you will continue to teach. I assume you will say the same thing on the current IRS questionnaire?
Donations were given to help in teaching, not to keep some board member's businesses out of bankruptcy. or to purchase a new estate.
Since ZiJiu Institute has the money (according to the finance statements), when will teaching (and where) start?
You don't need to tell us who you are. We know which side you are on.
If you want to continue to practice ZiJiu Gung, why don't you go directly to Lee or Lu? They need the kind of person like you, they need your money the most. Or, maybe you are Lee or Lu yourself?
Yes , I can see that ZiJiu.org has stolen the millions of dollars donated. You tell lies to the government. You tell lies to the members. I came here searching for truth and honesty as promised, but cannot get even one fact.
It is sad that so many people were fooled and lost their money.
樹多必有枯枝，人多必有白癡
君子報仇，三年不晚。小人報仇，一天到晚。
帥有個屁用，到頭來還不是被卒吃掉。
就算是Believe 中間還是有個lie.
就算是friend 最後還是會有個end.
就算是Love 最後還是會over.
就算是Forget 也要先get.
就算有個wife 心裡也要假設if.
壓力始終來自於 money.
樹不要皮，必死無疑。人不要臉，天下無敵。
台湾人作事，XXXX
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這位仁兄，您老是發文貶低台灣人，用一些煽動性的言詞。看了實在令人反感。
看來您也是與李延明交手過。何不提供一些親身經歷的例子，供大家參考？這樣子實在些。
我想網站的目地，是要大家分享資訊，不是到垃圾，或互相攻奸，為何要以大陸台灣激起分化。也有人用assuming「假設」就開始大做文章，這算什麼資訊，分享什麼？真的是閒得慌？看來是有心人故意搗亂吧？用此伎倆來降低網站素質，這跟spam 沒什麼兩樣。請這些人自愛一點，尊重絕大多數的網友。
Yeah you are right! "ZiJiu Master" is "very honest" in your eyes because you never see his scandals in his Website.
I don't care who posted it. I only care if the content reflects the truth.
This is very funny. Why don't you start using your real name and email address when you post the nonsense reply?
I don't see any point to argue with this XXXX,save your time and think how we can work together to get our money back,talk with our attoney,forget about this XXXXXX...........................
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這位 " I don't see any point to " 的發言者, 你別 " F??? " 來, " F??? " 去, 好嗎 ? 這是髒話 ( dirty word ), 避免說. 小心不要造口業. 如果有人對著你的面一直 " F???, F??? " 你, 你的感覺會好受嗎 ? 雖然這 " F??? " 字常掛在年輕人 ( 西方人 ) 嘴邊, 但我想你應該是中國人或台灣人, 別好的不學, 盡學這種不好的玩意.
本人因為對那位 " I don't see any point to " 的發言者在貼文中使用到 " F " 開頭的髒話感到不滿, 所以也貼文糾正並要求該發言者不要使用 " F " 開頭的髒話 " F " 來 " F " 去的. 很抱歉自己在貼文糾正該發言者的過程中也不小心將該發言者的 " F " 髒話跟著寫了出來.
在此, 謹向自救教育學院網站與各位網友致歉.
明明都是中國人，偏要用英文，還說髒字！真搞不懂，你們這些人想要表現的是什麼？欲蓋彌彰？混淆視聽？還是高人一等？
哎，台湾人遇到大陆人是秀才遇到兵，有理说不清。斗争的本质是取胜，不是形式。我们在虚张声势，老李比我们务实，他在用各种手段保卫他的胜利果实。现在最重要的是：
1。在网站用中英文持续揭露李延明，不要让他害更多的人，包括中国人和外国人
2。通过法律要回我们的捐款，维护我们的权益
3。学院组织活动，反思我们受骗的经历，教育后人接受教训
4。建议在华人媒体上控诉李的骗局
胜利不能靠等待对方的良心发现，胜利靠实力和斗争，现在正义和民心在我们这一边，如果我们错失良机，那才是破财又丢人，害人又害己。水能载舟亦能覆舟，我们能把他扶起来，也一定能把他推倒。否定我们曾经造的神是我们最大的反思与忏悔，我们总说大陆人不能反思文革和毛泽东，我们自己做到了吗？我们如果想在未来心中清静最有效的办法就是把我们的心魔摧毁，把他压在五指山下，永世不得翻身。
請不要用 "F" words . 也請網主將F words 刪除. 太low 了..
Why don't you complain XXXX master Li ------
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Your next comment has been deleted due to profaning language.
WARNING TO YOU
If you keep posting like this, YOU WILL BE PERMANENTLY BLOCKED, no matter which side you are leaning on.
Note to Admin: It will be difficult to block her (Lucy I am assuming), since home based IPs reset nearly every day. You should consider going to a registration based system. Then we can at least see usernames.
You are fundamentally wrong. Those posts are not even from the US.
Nice try!
What is your intention of setting up Lucy?
With the thousands of proxy servers, any IP can be used from anywhere. Today I am in Georgia, If it makes you feel better, tomorrow, I can be from Taiwan if you like.
I also think it funny that you believe that ZiJiu Master did not know that their IP would be blocked. That is probably most likely what they wanted. Now people at the school cannot be bothered by ZiJiu.org. Ha.
...you are right! "ZiJiu Master "is "very honest".
Well! At least we can agree on something!
Am I arguing with somebody who can't even read English?........lol
找律师XXXX
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律师有建议吗？我们能把钱要回来吗？我可不想把自己的血汗钱给了坏人
頂！號召大家把捐款拿回來，用慈善做幌子欺騙，大家原來是那麼信任李延明以為他真在行善，其實他根本在騙錢，李延明把大家的血汗錢吐出來。大騙子！
All the money did go to the ZiJiu Institute not to Master Li, specifically Edward Keng, Paul Ling, Diane Ling (the Boards of the Institute and the Church).
Since this is a Non-Profit Church, why do you spend so much time attacking volunteers, other charities and past members instead of spending time helping people (Like you tell the IRS you are doing).
When will JiuJiao, Inc. post its numbers? Those seem to be much larger than the ZiJiu Institute?
呂雅菁..shame on you....丟台灣人的臉!
你和李延明都會有報應的..不是不報,時機未到!
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Reviewing your donations to ZiJiu Institute, I see $264,105.49 for 2008 (this is separate from the 2008 donations to the Institute and Church).
But on your audited statement I only see Donations of $210,876.
Where is the missing $53,323.00 at?